can mitt romney become president realistically if he doesn't win ohio? >> either one can win without ohio. simple fact is probably the man who wins is going to win ohio. is it theoretically possible for either one of them to win without ohio, yeah. we can go through scenarios with wisconsin and colorado, pennsylvania slipping the other way. but believe me, this rally was in ohio for a very very special reason and i think president obama was here either yesterday or today. this is a crucial state. >> rudy -- >> whoever wins ohio wins the white house. >> while you've been talking, general wesley clark who was on just before you has been listening and actually wants to come back at you. so i'm going to let him have his say now. general. >> thanks, piers. i did want to come back, because i think the politicization of what's happened in benghazi deserves an answer. first of all, as the mayor well knows, after 9/11, democrats did not politicize this tragedy. not the first day, the first hour, not the first week, not the first month. but with respect to benghaz